# janmr blog

## The Crossed Ladders Problem27 March 2011

I was recently reminded of the crossed ladders problem. The following simple figure should be adequate in defining the problem:

If you haven't seen the problem before, I highly recommend trying to solve it before reading on.

I had previously tried to solve it, but without success. This time I couldn't get it out of my mind. I had become a (self-inflicted) victim of nerd sniping. Figure 2. xkcd explains nerd sniping

The thing is that it looks simple. But it isn't. Below is my solution to the problem (using some inspiration for making it a bit more pretty).

First, some variables must be introduced. Consider the following figures:

So , , and are given while the width is the sought quantity. Furthermore, and are auxilliary variables.

Consider first the special case . It is then clear that

Assume now, without loss of generality, that . The Pythegorean theorem gives us

(1)

We then use that the triangle ACD is similar to AFB, just like the triangle BDC is similar to BAE, and get

This gives us

We use this equality to get

(2)

We now start from (1) and use (2) to get

We finally divide each side by and obtain

(3)

where

(4)

Let us take a closer look at (3) by considering the fourth degree polynomium . Note first that is positive. Next that is decreasing for and and increasing for (seen from the derivative ). And since we then know that always has exactly two zeros, one negative and one positive. We are naturally interested in the positive one.

Assume now that we have found the (positive) root . We then have from (4) and (1),

and then

and finally

And that is the width we were looking for. Note, however, that if then no solution is possible. This can happen, for example, if the crossing height is larger than the shortest ladder.

But how do we solve (3) and find ? It is possible to solve a quartic equation analytically, so let us turn to Abramowitz and Stegun and solve it. By carefully inserting to retrieve the positive root we get

where

That concludes the solution to the crossed ladders problem. Let us finish by inserting some numbers.

From the initial illustration of the problem, we have , and . This gives us

There are actually lengths that have an integer solution. Take, for instance, , , and .

A simple, but tricky, problem.